Comments on: The Four-Way Stop http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/ Just another WordPress weblog Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:41:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: Mike http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-60 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:40:59 +0000 http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-60 You know, upon reading the scenario again, I realize it has some ambiguities, and that my original reading led me to a wrong conclusion. If everyone really reaches the intersection at the <i>same time</i> then there is no "order of arrival", at all. In that case, the driver to the right is given RoW. Of course, in this scenario, everybody is to the right of someone. So, someone must be the jerk, and go first. After that, then I guess the "rightmost" car is the one to the jerk's left, and so on. This almost never happens in my world, so I've never puzzled over it. Most of the time, people don't arrive at the same time, and "first one in" wins. On another front, what I hate is someone "giving" me the RoW when it was mine to begin with. You know, they wave you through as if they are giving you a present of some sort. On the other hand, I also get annoyed when people don't take the RoW when it's theirs (it just confuses the matter). You know, upon reading the scenario again, I realize it has some ambiguities, and that my original reading led me to a wrong conclusion. If everyone really reaches the intersection at the same time then there is no “order of arrival”, at all. In that case, the driver to the right is given RoW. Of course, in this scenario, everybody is to the right of someone. So, someone must be the jerk, and go first. After that, then I guess the “rightmost” car is the one to the jerk’s left, and so on. This almost never happens in my world, so I’ve never puzzled over it.

Most of the time, people don’t arrive at the same time, and “first one in” wins.

On another front, what I hate is someone “giving” me the RoW when it was mine to begin with. You know, they wave you through as if they are giving you a present of some sort. On the other hand, I also get annoyed when people don’t take the RoW when it’s theirs (it just confuses the matter).

]]> by: Bill Eisenhauer http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-59 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 15:41:12 +0000 http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-59 So sayh you have you and three other cars arrive at the intersection at the same time. You are car 1 and you number them others in clockwise order. So it goes 1,2,3, and 4. 3 is across from you. It seems a lot for people to keep track of to support an order of 1, 3, 2, and 4. Or any other permutation that doesn't follow an easy order. I have been trying to figure out where I learned to treat it this way. I'm wondering if it could have been my driver's ed teacher. I don't think I would have contrived this on my own, but I must admit that it makes a lot of sense. But if you are right, then you side with Suzanne and thus I'm being exposed as the asshole who thinks he has the right of way. Or the idiot who passes his turn in order to install the order he believes is correct. I wonder what else I believe in so strongly that may be absolutely wrong. So sayh you have you and three other cars arrive at the intersection at the same time. You are car 1 and you number them others in clockwise order. So it goes 1,2,3, and 4. 3 is across from you.

It seems a lot for people to keep track of to support an order of 1, 3, 2, and 4. Or any other permutation that doesn’t follow an easy order.

I have been trying to figure out where I learned to treat it this way. I’m wondering if it could have been my driver’s ed teacher. I don’t think I would have contrived this on my own, but I must admit that it makes a lot of sense.

But if you are right, then you side with Suzanne and thus I’m being exposed as the asshole who thinks he has the right of way. Or the idiot who passes his turn in order to install the order he believes is correct.

I wonder what else I believe in so strongly that may be absolutely wrong.

]]> by: Mike http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-58 Wed, 08 Mar 2006 13:36:45 +0000 http://life.billeisenhauer.com/2006/03/07/the-four-way-stop/#comment-58 In order of arrival. Although your approach may explain why some people seem to think they have the RoW when they clearly do not. In order of arrival. Although your approach may explain why some people seem to think they have the RoW when they clearly do not.

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