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The Four-Way Stop

Filed under: Life — Bill Eisenhauer at 9:03 pm on Tuesday, March 7, 2006

I don’t know how it came up, but Suzanne and I have discovered that we have two very firm, but different beliefs on how a four-way stop is navigated.  These are such long-held beliefs that even if we find out that one of us is wrong, we will be hard-pressed to change our habits.

We are in agreement on the four-way stop in the one and two car at the same time situations.  Its when several cars arrive at the same time, that we differ.  Suzanne believes that the order must go based upon the order of arrival.  In other words, it does not follow a clockwise or counter-clockwise rotation.

I, on the other hand, have always observed a counter-clockwise rotation once someone has claimed the right of way.

I have tried to research this in the Texas Department of Public Safety Driver’s Manual, but they were pretty vague and there was much left up for interpretation.  There are a few other assorted Internet sites, but none seemed to have a definitive answer. 

So until we find out otherwise, I guess we’ll each handle it our own way.  I refuse to adopt Suzanne’s method since it seems inherently dangerous.  I do not believe people can maintain an order that’s not some kind of a rotation.  But for all I know, she may be right.

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Comment by Mike

March 8, 2006 @ 5:36 am

In order of arrival. Although your approach may explain why some people seem to think they have the RoW when they clearly do not.

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Comment by Bill Eisenhauer

March 8, 2006 @ 7:41 am

So sayh you have you and three other cars arrive at the intersection at the same time. You are car 1 and you number them others in clockwise order. So it goes 1,2,3, and 4. 3 is across from you.

It seems a lot for people to keep track of to support an order of 1, 3, 2, and 4. Or any other permutation that doesn’t follow an easy order.

I have been trying to figure out where I learned to treat it this way. I’m wondering if it could have been my driver’s ed teacher. I don’t think I would have contrived this on my own, but I must admit that it makes a lot of sense.

But if you are right, then you side with Suzanne and thus I’m being exposed as the asshole who thinks he has the right of way. Or the idiot who passes his turn in order to install the order he believes is correct.

I wonder what else I believe in so strongly that may be absolutely wrong.

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Comment by Mike

March 8, 2006 @ 8:40 am

You know, upon reading the scenario again, I realize it has some ambiguities, and that my original reading led me to a wrong conclusion. If everyone really reaches the intersection at the same time then there is no “order of arrival”, at all. In that case, the driver to the right is given RoW. Of course, in this scenario, everybody is to the right of someone. So, someone must be the jerk, and go first. After that, then I guess the “rightmost” car is the one to the jerk’s left, and so on. This almost never happens in my world, so I’ve never puzzled over it.

Most of the time, people don’t arrive at the same time, and “first one in” wins.

On another front, what I hate is someone “giving” me the RoW when it was mine to begin with. You know, they wave you through as if they are giving you a present of some sort. On the other hand, I also get annoyed when people don’t take the RoW when it’s theirs (it just confuses the matter).

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